9x12 postcards. Does it work? Share your story.

Discussion in 'Offline Marketing' started by taherabas, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Hello lovely BHTers. I hope you all got a great start into this new year.

    First of all I'd like to excuse my bad english, but it isn't my mothertounge. I hope you'll understand it anyway. If not, please feel free to ask me what ever you want.

    A few weeks ago I stumpled over this threads:

    Code:
    
    http://www.blackhatteam.com/f185/get-postcard-fast-profits-98985.html
    
    http://www.blackhatteam.com/f185/get-scaredy-cats-ill-get-you-3k-in-a-jiffy-my-secrets-to-9x12-success-bob-ross-99321.html
    I guess a lot of you saw this treads too. Maybe a few took action as I did and we can use this thread to talk about problems, solutions, possibilities and ohter stuff around the 9x12 postcard marketing.
    I filled my first card with 18 businesses and last week i filled my second card with another 18 businesses. Believe it or not, it was a lot of work to get this cards filled and running. And with a lot I mean hell of a lot.

    Profit 4877,64 Euro.

    I documented my hole strategy and I'm willing to share it with you, if you share yours with us.
    I'm not US based, therefore I'd to emprove some steps from the original guides. Because some solutions didn't work in my country.
    But there is still enough place for better solutions.
    What's your experience, your porblems and solutions? Please share your story and I will share how I did it.

    ---

    First of all you have to target the right city. This is very crucial for your success. My first try failed hard because I targeted my home town.

    Amber Chisholms who came up with the "postcard fast profit"- guide talked about a local Business Co-Op and a niche card filled up with local businesses in the same niche, non-competetive but targeting the same market.
    This implementation was my second fail. The problem is, that most business have similar services. The hairdresser offers naildesign too.
    The fitness-studio offers tanning, sauna, spa too ... aso ...
    It was nearly impossible to find 18 businesses which are realy non-competetive.

    I could have filled this card anyway but I had no good feeling running this card.
    I think it's very important to offer real value and to be honest to all my cumstomers.

    I talked to all businesses and asked if it's okay, that theres another partner on the card who offers a similar service additional to his real service.
    Most of them said it's not okay and that they would be real unsatisfied if I had run this card without knowing it.

    Actually I want to give up. I put so much time and energie into the first two tries. But fortunately I tried a third time. It took me a full week to fill the card. Involving a lot of emails, calls and face-to-face meetings.

    ---

    Now it's your turn. Who else took action and will share his story, problems and solutions?
     
    #1
    pp2nn, sammwan, sammyc and 7 others like this.
  2. dealmein923

    dealmein923 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2012
    Messages:
    794
    Likes Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have spent quite a bit of time and effort exploring this opportunity. It does indeed take a great deal of effort to fill up a card..I found that walking into the business, briefly telling the first employee that is available...'I am the director of a local marketing coop', could you direct me to the owner is far more effective then cold calling for appointments etc...However, this approach is very time consuming...Business owners are frequently not available when you 'drop in' without an appointment and if they are they are frequently too busy to speak to you on the initial visit. Also, even when you complete a presentation, at best only 1 out of 5 will write out a check for the deposit at the conclusion of the initial meeting. Multiple presentations are often needed to 'make the close'...Without 'repeat visits' to the same business, I am estimating that it will take presentations (frequently multiple presentations to same business owners) 75-100 business owner presentation to fill an 18 slot 9X12 Ad PostCard...Factoring in the time and expense for all of this driving around...A very time consuming process...Of course, when you do fill up a card, at least some of the participants will probably sign up for another campaign. And, once you sell them the 9X12 marketing concept and begin to earn the confidence of business owners, it is likely you can sell them some other service as well. Once you can fill up one 9X12 card, it should be considerably easier to fill up subsequent cards with different advertisers in the same or different community. Could OP post what he did differently that enabled the initial failure to convert to success?
     
    #2
    mmiller, Impulse, wogglewam and 2 others like this.
  3. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Thanks for your reply dealman923.

    First I tried that CoOp-Invitation thing mentioned in the "postcard fast profits"-guide. Invitation via paperlesspost with a link to the CoOp-Guide. Email open rate was nearly 80%. Response rate nearly zero. I emailed 200 businesses. 20 per day. Next day I tried to call em. A lot of work. Result - 4 sales. I should mention that these businesses are not niche related.
    Are very helpful feedback was, that the CoOp-Guide is far to long. None of the business owners I'd to speak with read it completely.

    I tried another email script and emailed the next bsuniesses without paperlesspost. I think Bob Ross has a simple email script in on of his WSOs. Short , simple, good. He positions himself as an local printstore whos running a markting campain with other local business owners. It's part of the "The Secret Guide to 9x12 Success"-WSO

    Here is the Email:

    Subject line:
    Are you around later today or tomorrow?

    Body:
    Hi,
    My name's Bob - and I own a printing business here in Jacksonville.

    Next month I'm printing a 5,000 piece marketing campaign going to local residents living in Jacksonville, Jepsonville, and
    Jupsonville.

    I'm showcasing a dozen or so special offers local businesses are currently running and I'm guessing that you'd have an offer you
    might want featured on it?

    A few thousand of them will be mailed directly to homes as well as a couple thousand made available at around twenty "pickup
    points" where locals frequently visit (shops, lobbies, waiting rooms, laundromats, community boards, etc.).

    You'll get repeated exposures throughout the course of a month and it's only shared between local businesses, with no competitors.
    Since I'm printing everything at my prices and splitting it up between all of us, the cost to you is negligible. Let's help leverage each
    other and bring in business without having to spend much.

    If you're interested let me know as soon as possible.

    Thanks,

    [your contact info]


    I emailed another 200 businesses. Open rate 72%. 10 emailed me back. 7 called me. All they want to know was the price. I called all other 183 businesses the next days. Result 10 sales. Overall 14 sales. 4 to go.

    I called a few local print shops to get 1 postcard printed. I designed some sample adds. Got it printed and took this "dummy" to show it to some business owners. I walked from door to door. 2 days later I found the last 4 businesses to fill the empty spots.

    I did the design and copy all by myself. The businesses paid 99 Euro upfront and another 99 Euro if the ads are finished. I search Groupon for good offers and presented the final ads to the businesses. 9 were fine the other ones want an other design or something else ... This is something you should outsource. It's worth every penny!

    Conclusion: It works but it is a long, hard, stoney way. Don't make it niche related. Don't use the long CoOp-Guide. You have to email, call and speak to a lot of businesses till you can fill your first postcard.
     
    #3
  4. gotit0

    gotit0 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I haven't started the process, but have been thinking of it several times. will share later when i do have the 1st card in hands. Do you let the card to be picked up in some location points, or you mail them out to households through USPS?
     
    #4
  5. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    My cards get shared through the businesses themselfs. Every business got 275 cards. They will hand them out after someone buyed something.

     
    #5
    gotit0 likes this.
  6. dealmein923

    dealmein923 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2012
    Messages:
    794
    Likes Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I would like to thank the OP in Post #3 for sharing his methodolgy. And, I agree completely that the 'co-op guide' is way too long...The email OP used is excellent though...I think that your closing ratio..the second email in particular was quite good.. 10 return emails...and the 7 that called you in particular is outstanding...GREAT JOB!!!...Although I understand that the 'drop-offs' provide excellent value added to the business owner, unless I paid someone to do this for me, I would not do this...To me, mail service alone for the jumbo cards is a great deal for the business owners in itself...I am sure I will have other questions regarding your methodology though...And, I am confident that your 2nd effort and so forth will become easier and easier when you can show other business owners a card that you actually utilized for a real live campaign.
     
    #6
    taherabas likes this.
  7. lexluthor

    lexluthor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2012
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    292
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Great information shared here Thanks! I bought the course from Bob, joined the original
    thread on the WF, spoke to a couple of business owners locally, but didn't have the
    positioning described in Post #3. (And I bought the upsell too!) But I do belive that such a
    method could be successfully implemented with what was outlined in step 3, and done
    completely through telephone and email. It sounds like this could be successfully
    scaled up as well!
     
    #7
  8. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    You're right dealmein923. The second card becomes much easier. You can show a real example to impress the business owners as well as getting request from other business owner who saw your mailing. I also used referrals. If a business owner on the card brings another business he'll pay 50 euro less on the next card.

    Another advice: Never promise something. Especially no customers. The more the businesses expect the more they will be unsatisfied.
     
    #8
  9. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    I used email to "warm the businesses a little bit up". I'm neither the greatest salesman nor a cold calling expert. With the email as an introduction I feel more comfortable. I used my gmail email adress and yesware to track. Maybe the response were better with a website related email adress. But then I need a matching website too. I think simplicity is always the key.


     
    #9
  10. Goco

    Goco Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    14,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    to follow...in process...
    Location:
    Beach Lover
    Hey guys,

    Ordinarily I wouldn't stick my nose into this (you'll see why in a minute), but taherabas you seem to be genuinely
    searching for something...I just can't figure out exactly what ...you've raised a lot of issues and so I'm just going to
    limit myself here to some generalities, hopefully it will give you something to think about. The other reason I'm pitching
    in here is that I see my friends dealmein923, lexluthor, and gotit0 in here pitching in too, so here goes...

    Way back in the 1990's (seems like a century ago!) I started a company that sold a product very similar
    to this "9x12 postcard." Only mine was not a postcard, and it was larger -- it was 11 x 17, the 'ads' were sold to
    local businesses and placed all around the border (double sided) of the sheet, and the middle was filled with content,
    much like a newsletter. Only it was a combination newsletter/advertorial. In the advertorial I would showcase the
    best client(s), usually higher end ones. They loved it (it was added value to them, but they paid for it).

    It was very successful, and I sold it for a nice profit after a few years. I stayed on in a consulting role where
    I received a share of profits for another couple years later. I had already retired prior to launching that thing,
    I came out of "early retirement" to mess around with that project. I came up with the entire concept myself,
    by simply merging several things I had seen previously that were working. I had never sold 'advertising' per se
    previously, but had been in the outdoor sign business successfully years prior. I 'sold' them as little or mini-billboards,
    because that's how I related to them, and the businesses and owners loved them.

    Greatest salesman in the world may be too egoistic, but I'd put myself on par with the best (I know that sounds
    awful, but it is true)! The range of businesses involved with during my career range the full spectrum -- the
    price points went from a low of $39, all the way to a high of $150,000 (that was one sale, one account). That's
    without considering Real Property -- where the transactions have been higher still, or 'professional' selling requiring
    specialized licensing, etc. Dealmein will relate to this, as I think you've been involved in investment sales as well.

    I've now made the transition (successfully) to what I call "selling words" - in writing. Copywriting is selling. As is
    speaking - whether it's verbal, written or otherwise, and the media used doesn't change that fact either -- it's
    all sales (though, not the way that MOST people think of it). I've now written a piece that was directly
    responsible for well over 7 figures + (my own project - not someone else's).

    Too many businesses and companies experienced to list here for you, so I'll simply make the following statement
    knowing full well the import and from experience, and also because you've raised it in your post:

    Becoming a *Master Salesman* may be the single most profitable goal you can achieve, and noblest as well.

    I know that may raise a few eyebrows, but it is provable, and I'm but one example of it, there are many. You see
    friends, the MORE you become, not just in terms of success, but as an individual, the MORE you are able to GIVE
    and impact others. As you should. On the financial/profits side for you; once you've learned what you must
    learn to become a master, your earning power is only limited by your own imagination, and drive.

    One last related comment to the past and then I'll move on to what I think may be your question...
    A few years after I sold that company (very profitably too) -- I was approached by another consulting client
    that I had mentored, with a referral to go see another business owner who had the need to protect their business
    and assets (another consulting business). He owned an advertising company, and I spent a couple weeks learning
    about his company and the deal I struck with him was that I would only consult/mentor him if I thought I could
    help him.

    I did.

    When I left, that company was doing 25 times the volume, sales, & profits than when I had entered the picture.
    My last year of commissioned sales was just shy of $400k, and that was in 2005 dollars. That also didn't
    include training and management fees, as I trained a sales force that expanded into 12 states.
    My equity-deal in that company was several times those figures.

    Do you think that owner was okay with paying several million dollars, when his company grew by a factor of 25
    times? Of course not, he didn't mind... in fact, he keeps hounding me to go do it again in another company now!!


    Why am I telling you all this?

    3 reasons:
    1. You can do the same identical thing I did. I know you can. (though you don't know you can yet)
    2. The product in that little ad company was also an advertising type / direct-response product - but it was
    more complicated than the Bob Ross 9x12. Meaning that your 9x12 product is easier to deploy than what I was doing.
    3. The answers you seek, or are having trouble formulating, are ALL related to or inversely proportioned to a
    misunderstanding of how to sell this thing. i.e. They all revolve around the "selling process," the understanding
    of it, or misunderstanding of it.​

    My thoughts on why this has been left out of the 9x12 materials, I suspect is because he wants to
    continue "drip-feeding" products to continue selling to his 'herd' or following. Maybe?
    Or it may be that the process of training someone to sell this effectively is too unwieldy, may seem complex with
    too many intermediary steps involved, and simply too expensive. All possibilities I suppose.

    In my view, you're working with 1 piece of what may be a 10 to 15 piece puzzle, in order to make it into a 7 figure
    business. You've seen that it CAN work, but the work involved may not justify what you've made? So I'll leave
    you with this insight. I ran into this initially back in the 80's from Jay Abraham.

    There are really only 3 ways or adjustments you can make to grow a business.

    1. You can INCREASE the sale price point (which I would do)
    2. You an INCREASE the volume of sales (which I would do)
    3. You can INCREASE the frequency of purchase (which I would do)​


    Engineer those three in your 9x12 projects, and you should see better outcomes.
    Unfortunately, the instructions given are meant for what I would label a beginner approach. You need
    to apply a true 'sales' process to it, and you'll fly high and fast.

    Best wishes,

    ~Goco
    :cool:

    P.S. Businesspeople do NOT mind paying whatever price you offer -- businesses, commercial sales, and
    professionals are looking at their bottom lines, they understand ROI's, and that makes them the EASIEST
    to 'sell.' Similarly; you wouldn't mind paying $1 if you made 3 or 4 back right? The scale is irrelevant, in
    fact as your scale gets higher, it gets EASIER - not harder! Forget your prices - they're ALL wrong!
    Pricing is for amateurs, or for consumers. You're NOT in the consumer world when you sell to businesses!

    P.P.S. It's 100% about the VALUE you propose...get THAT right, and you CAN charge WHATEVER PRICE
    you want! When you do that, THEY will THROW their checkbooks at YOU, and CHASE YOU...
    It will become your mindset, and your lifestyle. :cool:

    Send me a SMILE if you get it!
     
    #10
  11. taherabas

    taherabas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    Thank you for your reply Goco.

    You're right. I'm searching for solutions to grow my business. I'm always looking for like minded people and people who've already accomplished what I want to archive. To learn something new, to improve my skills and to find new ways of getting things done.

    I guess I started it wrong. I tried to focus on businesses that run expensive ads on newspapers and don't expect to much. Or advertise on billboards. Businesses that know that's important to advertise but don't really track the results. I thought if they truly watch their ROI they could be unsatisfied. I tried to walk the simple and safe way. Not really clever.

    I already knew what you tried to show me. But I was (am) a little bit afraid that I can't deliver what I promise - that value thing. Nevertheless you opened my eyes again. Thanks for your effort to share your knwoledge with me/us. I really appreciate this.

    Now I have to find the pain points the businesses I want to advertise with face and find some solutions I can deliver them through my 9x12 postcard.

    :)
     
    #11
    Battleworn and gotit0 like this.
  12. Battleworn

    Battleworn Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2013
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Wow! I'm really glad I found this thread on here, I'm ready to launch this thing this week by contacting businesses. Glad I got and idea of what all of you have experienced with this. My Biggest concern was what to price the card at because I know what I want to make from it, and it seemed a little steep for local businesses right out of the gate.

    I was looking pricing them all the same at $695 (US) using a first come first served approach to filling up the spots. It would amount to 4 of the smallest spots left, but I figured I would sell by "cutting them a deal" and combining 2 small spaces to make a medium sized space.

    I feel there is value at that price, I guess I fear their reaction to it.

    Goco, I's love to know what sales process you think is best for selling this to local businesses.
     
    #12
  13. wogglewam

    wogglewam Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2010
    Messages:
    642
    Likes Received:
    507
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Occupation:
    Pro Mailer | Fresh Email Lists Any Size | Availabl
    Location:
    A Citizen of Nowhere
    Goco, you absolutely rock! Thanks for taking the time to enlighten us.
     
    #13
  14. boltactionz

    boltactionz Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    18

    Goco,

    You're right. The original price points were around $39-$55 or so, some at $17-39. But this latest "secrets" one was at $297, with a $100 discount for the early birds. Quite a jump! Plus there's all the "accessories" and help-you-get-started samples and such.

    I don't begrudge anybody, but whoa. From $55 to $300? Serious jump. Can't blame him considering it's called "secrets" and all. There truly are some good ones in there. (Besides, guess what BLACKHAT is all about?! It's out there, although it might not last forever as things seemed to be heavily monitored in the beginning.)

    And I have no complaints at all about this considering the potential it has.

    But I cannot help but wonder, if the latest follow-up is priced at $300, what is the next one going to be?
     
    #14
  15. Goco

    Goco Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,184
    Likes Received:
    14,069
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    to follow...in process...
    Location:
    Beach Lover
    Fellow Road Warriors . . .

    My Fellow Road Warriors . . .

    Though I suppose it's more appropriate to call you guys "Computer Jockeys," or "Keyboard Nerds," or
    "Net Super Freaks!" ;) Take your pick! The term "road warrior" I'm guessing may apply to your Dad's
    better? Anyway, I love you all too! Do you youngsters even know what the term "road warrior" meant?


    So let me hand you the GOOD, the BAD, and the UGLY, in true Eastwood style (right between the eyes).
    But first some replies ...

    wogglewam - you absolutely rock too dude. You're welcome, & I'm happy to hear this has helped you in some
    way. You've got the right attitude and my sense is, you're on the right track - so don't stop, keep on
    steppin' forward. Your pot 'o gold is out there somewhere, keep going & you'll find it!


    Battleworn - I'll address your question as succinctly as possible:

    1. With all due respect to Bob Ross and the 'systems' he's created. I want to be clear and want you to
    understand this is not a criticism or a disparaging remark; on the contrary, I think he's to be congratulated
    for jumping on the 'EDDM' post office program (which I think is what made this feasible). He's not the
    first or last to put together something on direct mail, or postcards - it's been around for a very long time.

    2. Having stated that, to your question -- is there a better way? Yes, there is. However, that's based on
    many years of experience & background, and so my perspective is very different than someone who is
    recently exposed to this, or someone who has been doing this for a year, or two, or even ten!

    3. For example: I used to fly in to a city or town I'd never been to, check in to a hotel, do some
    'research' on the local market for 1-2 days (depending on the location) - then 'sell' for 4 - 7 days,
    and return with anywhere from a low of $20k to $50k + + + depending on the business/type. Today,
    those figures can be doubled. Then I doubled those figures AGAIN as a trainer! What I'm saying is;
    you don't do that, from reading a report, manual, or a book...

    But it's that way with almost everything. You've heard of the 10,000 hour theory right?

    So compare the perspective a flying student has, to the perspective a Captain "Sully" Sullenberger has
    (the pilot who landed the U.S. Airways airliner on the Hudson River). How different do you think your
    view is after you've read the manual on "how to fly," than the view Captain Sully has? Then you ask
    Captain Sully something like this:
    "So Captain Sully, I've just read the instructions on how to land
    my Cessna, err... umm... what do you think is the best way to land my plane?
    "​

    Which part of his 30 + years experience should he begin relating to you?

    Now, let me circle back and also tell you that it CAN be done, but there's a specific WAY to do it.

    I'm sure there are some old fashioned road warriors on here who are quietly reading, lurking, smiling
    and chuckling. :) There's only a few, but they're out there.

    4. Should this "better way" be created & packaged up for some to use? The answer is: maybe.
    The reasons are many; I'm not convinced that there's really enough real interest these days. I'm
    sure there's a few of that old 'breed' left, but it is somewhat of a dying art form.

    I'm more inclined to write/coach on the larger subject of becoming a Master Communicator (which is really
    what a Master Salesman is). Drop the word 'salesman' because it's one of those buzzwords that most
    people do not understand, it is charged with misconceptions and misunderstandings. But make no
    mistake; in every human communication -- a 'sale' is made. It will help you to always keep that
    in mind -- someone is always selling, and the other party is buying, every single time. The only
    question remaining is -- which end of that are YOU on? Are you selling? Are you buying? Pay attention
    to it, and you'll see it's all around you - 24 hrs a day.

    Tip for you: Wealth, is concentrated and to be found on the selling side. Not on the consuming side.


    taherabas - You didn't start it wrong -- you 'started' and that's the right step! Most people never
    even get started, so you're way ahead of most of the population already. It doesn't matter where you
    start, everyone starts out the same...but not everyone ends up the same, right? How does a baby learn
    to walk and run? Baby steps, yes?

    Here's your takeaway: knowing something (in this context), is meaningless. The goal & gold you want,
    is to be found in APPLYING what you know, in DO-ING. You're smart, and you CAN take action,
    and that combination can take you anywhere you WANT to go...you just have to figure out what that is,
    and do it. Those 18 spots or however many they were, didn't jump into your wallet by themselves did they?


    dealmein - Your analysis in post #2 is correct. It is what I'm calling 'inefficient' and yes, there
    IS a better way to do this. Forget the email approach. This is a PHYSICAL product - not an electronic
    coupon, not a website, etc. I'm not saying it can't work this way, anything can work. But by the time
    you fill in your 18 spots, you could have completed 5-6 of these! Yes, I said five to six times (at
    least) as efficient. And instead of your 1 out of 5 average, turn it around the other way...you should
    be getting 4 out of 5... :D

    How does that sound?

    It is doable. I don't speak from theory or wishful thinking.

    Because this is physical -- produced, delivered, and consumed physically... listen net freaks, you need
    to GET in front of the guy/gal who CAN write you a PHYSICAL CHECK or C-A-S-H (not a paypal) the same
    moment that YOU are there to SHOW it to them! Cash is usually the smaller amounts (say less than $1k).

    Forget multiple trips, forget multiple presentations, and forget this business about 1/2 today and 1/2
    tomorrow or next week or next month or next year! That is NOT sales net nerds...that is some other
    concoction!


    taherabas & dealmein - you're on the right track that can take you to your own goldmines, if you
    stick to it and keep learning, keep adjusting. I'm not criticizing you, I'm saying you need to keep
    pushing forward...


    boltactionz - good attitude, absolutely! Moreover, my suggestion would be to PAY it, especially if
    you're implementing. I'll guess his next deal price -- either $497, or $997. But again, put it in
    its perspective.


    Is this helpful? Let me know if it is, or not. If it is, I'll continue & finish the "Good, Bad, and Ugly"
    and send you my thoughts on "Road Warriors" - the real ones...

    ~Goco
    :cool:
     
    #15
  16. air360

    air360 Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    8
    This is excellent! I am LOVING reading your posts Goco!!! Keep going! I feel you really know your stuff...please keep teaching and explaining. Personally, I would love to hear more about your more effective system for doing it....obviously it has to be with physically getting in front of people ...but of course i know there is more to it...so please keep going!
     
    #16
  17. chadd

    chadd Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2011
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Been lurking here and wanted to chime in and thank everyone in this thread for good stuff, especially Goco.

    Some really good stuff here.
     
    #17
  18. anthony82988

    anthony82988 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    284
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    On Staff Copywriter
    Location:
    The Trenches!
    Wow this was a great post.

    Great job Goco.

    If you don't mind, what approach would you take into consideration to
    start increasing your clientele?
     
    #18
  19. bobmcalister

    bobmcalister Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2010
    Messages:
    1,517
    Likes Received:
    815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    excellent information in this thread ! I appreciate all who have contributed ....love to hear what successful people have done to get where they are...thanks !
     
    #19
  20. ThirdEyeGuy

    ThirdEyeGuy New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2014
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    This post is truly gold. I am about to start my first 9 x 12 Mailing campaign. Amber just released another post card method. I feel like the methods they are releasing are going to go on for years to come. That is marketing at its best and they are sucking the well dry. taherabas you are my hero for getting out there and making all of those phone calls!
    It takes a lot of courage to do so. I would love to hear about your future successes and share my stories also.
     
    #20

Share This Page